The Dell™ EqualLogic™ PS4000 Internet SCSI (iSCSI) storage array is designed to address the needs of remote office and small and medium business storage deployments using the same innovative EqualLogic virtualized architecture and full software feature set as previous generations of EqualLogic PS Series arrays. However, the EqualLogic PS4000 arrays offer an affordable entry point for smaller EqualLogic PS Series configurations to help remote offices get the benefits of data center–class IT solutions such as consolidation and virtualization. Dell EqualLogic experts will lead a technical discussion of the newly announced EqualLogic PS4000 iSCSI storage array.

Technical Community - Background Reading

• Dell EqualLogic PS4000 Series iSCSI storage arrays:
• EqualLogic PS4000E iSCSI storage array
• EqualLogic PS4000X iSCSI storage array
• EqualLogic PS4000XV iSCSI storage array

• DellTechCenter PS4000 page
• PS Series Architecture
• EqualLogic Document Center
  

Chat Transcript

DELL-ScottH	Hey Hoosiercab and Cgeenoh. How you guys been?
HoosierCAB	I'll mostly be reading the transcript; I'm wrestling with some Backup Exec "issues"
cgreenoh	Chat works a fright in Internet Explorer 8; suppose I should add you guys to the Allowed list in Firefox, if I'm gonna visit more often. :)
hphenkel	@grealish, :bestens, danke der Nachfrge
cgreenoh	Yo, Scott
HoosierCAB	But I'm eagerly awaiting my fine prize from the twitpic of my "data center" :)
grealish	Bita
cgreenoh	Had so much fun last time, figured I should get in here. Hell, I might even be buying CommVault.
HoosierCAB	And, we paid $400 for that rack from a local manufacturing company when they decided bakers racks were better for their Dell PowerEdge 1850s
Dell-KongY	@hoosiercab, yeah, congrats on winning the laptop bag
DELL-ScottH	Wow, the whole company?!
grealish	So are there many here from the VMware FT talk yesterday?
HoosierCAB	It was brand new and unused
DELL-ScottH	Yeah, congrats on the bag
HoosierCAB	Not too many submissions; the other one I saw was...what I used to have to deal with
cgreenoh	I was wondering what the exact definition of "data center" was, 'cause if it's an overall infrastructure I have two racks of Dell—but I'm not allowed to take pictures of them so I suppose it's moot anyway. :P
DELL-ScottH	I missed the VMware roundtable on the FT; looks like it would be a good replay
Dell-KongY	@grealish, I wanted to join but had a Doctor's appointment. How was it?
DELL-ScottH	@cgreenoh, yeah I figured most people couldn't take pictures of their data center. I'm going to do an easier contest next time
grealish	Good! Saved me from crawling through pages of white papers
Dell-KongY	Yeah, next time it might be "office space," like in a field or something
grealish	And today I got the blade rack, plus the software’s set up for FT testing
DELL-ScottH	@hoosier, bakers racks?! Are they crazy?
cgreenoh	I could take a picture of my old PowerEdge 2650 with PowerVault chassis on a steel rack in my office-side "server room" lol
DELL-ScottH	Welcome back, Ujjwal! You find a power source?
cgreenoh	Or the seven PowerEdge 2850s and PowerEdge 750s I have on my office floor, lol
HoosierCAB	I'll try to get video when/if I convince the boss to let us smash our last PowerEdge 2550. Or PowerEdge 6450
Dell-KongY	Welcome D_glynn
DELL-ScottH	Nice
cgreenoh	Smash? Noooooooooooooooooo!
Dell-d_glynn	Hey Kong
Dell-KongY	@hoosiercab, not smash us...our competitor ;)
grealish	The best notes from the FT were Host HA clusters support up to four FT VMs with at least 2 GB net connectivity, and VMware is interested in case studies
Dell-d_glynn	Hey Jeff. Hey all
DELL-ScottH	Man! No smashing the Dell! Only HP or IBM :-)
Jeff_Junker	Yo
Dell-KongY	Did anyone see team USA versus Spain in futbol last night?
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	I did
Jeff_Junker	Shutout, cool
Dell-KongY	What a game for team USA
HoosierCAB	Oh, we've got nothing else to destroy; all we've bought is Dell for ~eight years now
Dell-KongY	Welcome Tom
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	That was a good game
Dell-KongY	@hoosiercab :)
HoosierCAB	The Sun and HP you can see in my data center pictures aren't ours. They were spec'ed by another dept
cgreenoh	Scott, you don't destroy HP and IBM, you use it to prop up the Dell stuff while you're building it, as 400s make great table ends
DELL-ScottH	Welcome back, Mrobbert. How are the mines?
DELL-ScottH	@cgreenoh, Yes! Nice lamp tables
mrobbert	Hi Scott, we're good here!
Dell-KongY	@greenoh lol
Dell-KongY	Welcome, Mrobbert. Considering iSCSI? ;)
HoosierCAB	Not me, but former coworker: http://ck.cx/archive/938/, http://ck.cx/archive/944/ (thermite and harddrives). So, what's the story on these new EqualLogic PS4000s?
mrobbert	We've actually got some EqualLogic PS6000s on order for our infrastructure, not HPC
cgreenoh	I've got active quotes for a couple of EqualLogic PS6000s. If I can make the $# work
Dell-KongY	@mrobbert and @cgreenoh, awesome!
erson	Hi all
DELL-ScottH	Alright, about time to kick it off
Jeff_Junker	EqualLogic PS4000s are a great value starter system; foundation for iSCSI SAN
DELL-ScottH	Welcome Erson
Dell-KongY	Welcome back from vacation, @erson
erson	Thanks a lot
Dell-KongY	How was your time off?
cgreenoh	Yeah, I'm interested in hearing about the EqualLogic PS4000s
erson	Spain last week and was away on seminars by Microsoft last Tuesday
DELL-ScottH	Today's topic is the Dell EqualLogic PS4000 Series. We've got a couple of guest chatters: Jeff Junker and Ujjwal Rajbhandari. Please introduce yourselves
Dell-KongY	Welcome Todd
DELL-ScottH	Please ask questions at any time, and a reminder that this chat is recorded, so tomorrow you can click any links you missed here in the transcript
Jeff_Junker	Hello all
DELL-ScottH	Welcome Todd
VirtualTodd	Hello all!
DELL-ScottH	Here's a link to some product information you can browse later on the EqualLogic PS4000: http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/equallogic+ps4000
DELL-ScottH	Right-click links! Or the chat client dumps you out :-)
grealish	BTW, just as you were speaking about HW, nothing gets bigger than this! http://twitpic.com/8efje
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	Hello all.
DELL-ScottH	Welcome Dennis and Gerry
Dell-KongY	Welcome Dennis_s and Gerry_holm
Dell-KongY	So who's going to lead out with some questions on the EqualLogic PS4000s?
DELL-ScottH	Reminder that you can click Action, Recent Room History to catch up on the chat
Jeff_Junker	So as a foundation for this discussion, EqualLogic PS4000 is essentially a value meal–sized version of the EqualLogic PS6000—all the features, just not as scalable for items like total volumes, snapshots, and it has 2 GbE ports versus 4
DELL-ScottH	Is there a paper or link that compares the differences in EqualLogic PS4000 to EqualLogic PS6000?
erson	I would like to know the difference between EqualLogic PS4000 versus EqualLogic PS6000 besides the fewer ports on the controller and the limit of a two EqualLogic PS4000 in SAN group (and information about how that can be extended by adding EqualLogic PS6000)?
cgreenoh	Dang, Erson, got my questions exactly
erson	Cgreenoh, nice :)
Jeff_Junker	You can expand at any time and get full features. The rule is no more than two EqualLogic PS4000s in a group; you can simply add an EqualLogic PS6000 (or EqualLogic PS5000) and expand
DELL-ScottH	So if I start with EqualLogic PS4000 and then add EqualLogic PS6000, the volumes, snapshots, etc. increase to the limits of the EqualLogic PS6000?
Jeff_Junker	You catch on fast ;-)
grealish	Anyone know the price difference between the EqualLogic PS4000 versus the EqualLogic PS6000?
DELL-ScottH	Is there full support for vSphere?
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	Since the EqualLogic PS4000 has all the software features of an EqualLogic PS6000, the EqualLogic PS4000 becomes a great array for a Robo
Dell-KongY	Robo = remote branch office
Jeff_Junker	Yes, same fundamental feature set as EqualLogic PS6000; same complete set of free software tools as well
VirtualTodd	Is VMware SRM supported with EqualLogic PS4000?
grealish	@scott, I guess with iSCSI, it's going to be support, plus the plug-in manager in the other PS Series works
Jeff_Junker	Yes, full VMware support; same as EqualLogic PS6000
grealish	My interest in the EqualLogic PS4000 is, can it support an MPIO? As in, can the controller handle the 2x GbE with different subnets?
DELL-ScottH	FYI, for newbies to Equallogic, here's a good demo: www.equallogic.com/resourcecenter/assetview.aspx?id=5601
erson	I bought an EqualLogic PS6000 recently; is there any other reason for me to not get an EqualLogic PS4000 when I expand, if I can live with the fewer ports on the EqualLogic PS4000?
Jeff_Junker	Just that you can only grow your SAN to two EqualLogic PS4000s; MPIO works fine
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	Yes, MPIO is supported, and we have a DSM for Windows. We rely on the native Linux MPIO for the Linux distribution
grealish	Cool, thanks, @ujjwal_rajbhandari:
cgreenoh	Interesting, because an EqualLogic PS4000 would fit my bill nicely for low-impact services. Still need an EqualLogic PS6000 for my heavy SQL stuff. But if I can do a hybrid of the two, and not lose features, that could save me some $ and make it closer to reality
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	There are other limitations on the EqualLogic PS4000, such as fewer number of snaps, volumes, hosts, etc. that might discourage you from going with an EqualLogic PS4000 and [going] with EqualLogic PS6000
cgreenoh	EqualLogic PS4000 is a 16-drive shelf too?
Jeff_Junker	Yes
cgreenoh	What's the largest SATA drive supported now?
erson	When are you killing off the MD3000i? :)
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	Yes 16 drives and we offer 15,00 rpm SAS, 10,000 rpm SAS, and SATA
grealish	About the controls, how quick is the failover?
Jeff_Junker	1 TB
erson	I have recently unpacked an MD3000i; is there a trade-in program? :)
cgreenoh	And when do you think you'll support 2.5" drives?
erson	I want my bezels to match...
cgreenoh	Erson, lol, geek
erson	The word is that support for 2 TB drives is on the way...can you confirm that?
grealish	Right guys, gtg early; thanks for the Q&A
DELL-ScottH	Hey Jason, you made it anyway! Enjoy the pints!
Jeff_Junker	Yes on the way for PS Series
Dell-d_glynn	see ya, Darragh
cgreenoh	The 2 TB drive support will rock my world, either that or 2.5" drive support…or both
grealish	@scotth, will do ;)
erson	I heard that the controller on the EqualLogic PS4000 is slower than on the EqualLogic PS6000, can you confirm that?
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	Slower and faster is always dependent on the I/O workload
Jeff_Junker	Do you think stopping by the sports bar to drink a quart will ever catch on?
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	There is some difference in the controller between the EqualLogic PS4000 and EqualLogic PS6000. The EqualLogic PS6000 controller comes with 2 GB cache, the EqualLogic PS4000 with 1 GB cache
erson	Ujjwal, wrong; the EqualLogic PS4000 also has 2 GB cache
JasonPowell	Different number of I/O ports too
Jeff_Junker	If you only use two ports on an EqualLogic PS6000 you can achieve similar results; depends on your exact workload disclaimer
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	Sorry about that…2 GB cache is correct
JasonPowell	4 I/O ports on the EqualLogic PS6000
Jeff_Junker	EqualLogic PS4000 does have a third port for dedicated management network, if that floats your boat at all
hphenkel	Is it possible to get the controllers replaced/upgraded for the case that 10GbE controllers are available?
JasonPowell	Two I/O ports on the EqualLogic PS4000
Jeff_Junker	As a general principle for the PS Series, yes, there is a road map for upgrades—not available yet
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	But the value of an EqualLogic array is that you can always have newer arrays work with your older arrays
JasonPowell	Has Dell released I/O performance stats yet for the EqualLogic PS4000? I've not seen them yet
Jeff_Junker	Trivia: A few weeks ago I built a SAN with eight generations of controllers, essentially all versions since the start of EqualLogic time...all running the same firmware, so the oldest array has the same feature set as the newest
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	We have some white papers with performance metrics in the works and should be out in a few days
DELL-ScottH	Hey Dylan! How goes it?
cgreenoh	What's the expected price difference percentage from EqualLogic PS4000 to EqualLogic PS6000, outside of specific configuration/premiere pricing differences, etc.?
DELL-ScottH	@jeff, that is very cool; and what did it cost for those firmware upgrades?
Jeff_Junker	Nutting honey
Dylan-L_Dell	@dell-scotth, been better, Internet Explorer crashed mid-demo...
DELL-ScottH	@jeff, we should start throwing in Shamwows with the upgrades :-)
Jeff_Junker	Virtual shamwows; cool
erson	Is there a spam limit on the chat?
Dell-d_glynn	Not as good as virtual chickens ;)
erson	/me has compiled a comparison on the tech specs from EqualLogic.com
DELL-ScottH	Have you posted it somewhere?
erson	Nope
Jeff_Junker	Industrious of you
erson	EqualLogic PS6000 volumes: up to 1,024 snapshots: 512 per volume; up to 10,000 total hosts accessing PS Series group: up to 512 per pool; 2,048 per group network interfaces: Four (4) copper GbE TCP network support: IPV4, IPV6 core support including JITC
erson	EqualLogic PS4000 volumes: up to 256 snapshots: 128 per volume; up to 2,048 total hosts accessing PS Series group: up to 128 per pool; 256 per group network interfaces: two (2) copper GbE copper for I/O, one (1) 10/100 copper (optional management network only) per controller TCP network support: IPV4, IPV6 core support
DELL-ScottH	Maybe on the TechCenter…thinking that might be a good place ;-)
erson	Those are the only significant differences that I found when comparing the technical specifications on EqualLogic PS6000e and EqualLogic PS4000e
Jeff_Junker	Like we said, value meal–sized
DELL-ScottH	So I don't want to ignore @cgreenoh's question. Is there a rough percentage delta of price difference in EqualLogic PS4000 to EqualLogic PS6000?
erson	What is the JITC network support on the EqualLogic PS6000?
Jeff_Junker	That is, after eating the virtual chicken
cgreenoh	Dang, I knew there was some special math word I should use in there: "delta"
DELL-ScottH	@cgreenoh, yeah, have to ask nicely...because of course it all depends :-)
erson	Delta would be very nice to know
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	Roughly half the cost of an EqualLogic PS6000. Don't quote me on it
cgreenoh	Too late, I saved the chat log and am now sending to my rep: I want 50 percent price difference :)
erson	On the list price or the real price? :)
DELL-ScottH	Lol, be nice, or you get kick banned :-)
DELL-ScottH	Just contact your rep and get pricing for both, then tell us :-) Or tweet it out
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	Lol
DELL-ScottH	Or Jason can price them for us...Jason!
Jeff_Junker	Oh, just re-hear the Kiss song with tweet lyrics in my head; clearly I need counseling
cgreenoh	Oh I will. I'm calling the local storage reps tomorrow. They're salivating already; gotta get them updated perfmons. ;)
erson	I got a really good discount on my EqualLogic PS6000e, but my MD3000i with the same hard disk configuration was about 1/4
erson	So, where's the exchange program for those that have a totally unused MD3000i?
DELL-ScottH	MD3000i is not bad, but I like the advanced feature set of the EqualLogic, and I get them all for free :-)
HoosierCAB	Erson, eBay!
JasonPowell	/me is on a conference call
DELL-ScottH	eBay!
Dell-KongY	Since both the EqualLogic PS4000 and EqualLogic PS6000 have 16 spindles each and have similar features sans the controller ports, is there any performance difference between two EqualLogic PS4000s versus two EqualLogic PS6000s?
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	Performance difference is very sensitive to workload and very difficult to quantify
cgreenoh	I'd guess only if you need the throughput of extra Ethernet ports on the EqualLogic PS6000, am I right?
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	The architecture of EqualLogic PS Series arrays shines when you have many arrays in a storage pool
cgreenoh	I mean, all things equal
JasonPowell	Shameless plug: I'd be happy to quote any of the EqualLogic product line...just contact me before talking to anyone else :-) jason.powell@vr6systems.com
Jeff_Junker	Just checked some list pricing deltas; approximately 20–40 percent less depending on unit configuration
JasonPowell	And for the record, I'm also an EqualLogic user (we have three in the rack)
JasonPowell	/me advertising mode off
erson	Hmmm, I just might give my new sales rep. a call as well. Just for the hell of it…
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	With the limitation of two to a group there are limitations at the pool and group levels
hphenkel	Same old question, how does the EqualLogic PS4000e compare to the MD3000i concerning performance and others—any reasons for the MD system—or is this system to be cancelled in the future as EqualLogic PS4000e will be the entry iSCSI model?
JasonPowell	I'd be interested in seeing a nice comparison between PowerVault MD3000i and EqualLogic PS4000e
Dell-d_glynn	@ujjwal/Jeff, what is the limit on the number of iSCSI sessions per pool?
watermarkgeek	Wow, image jasonpowell here... =) Hey, pal
Jeff_Junker	128 per pool—limit two pools
JasonPowell	We have a PowerVault MD3000i. Hoping we can get an EqualLogic PS4000e to play with in the future
JasonPowell	Watermark! What’s up dude?
Jeff_Junker	Waterboard, tell me
DELL-ScottH	We've got plans to do some of the performance comparison testing between all these storage boxes that we sell. Might be some under-the-radar stuff because you can imagine all the different groups with all the different products we sell and resell
Dell-d_glynn	Thanks, Jeff
JasonPowell	Scotth, yeah, I'm sure Dell doesn't like competing against itself :-)
DELL-ScottH	We're just going to do the tests and keep spindles equal and I/O ports equal and throw some different workloads at it and let the numbers speak for themselves
DELL-ScottH	Yes, so true
watermarkgeek	Like Jason, I would love to compare the PowerVault MD3000i with the EqualLogic PS4000. Obviously, we'd love to have one family of devices (the PS Series) if the pricing and performance is the right choice
DELL-ScottH	It's probably our #1 request, and we get a bunch of pushback because of that
Tom	Can you compare the EqualLogic PS4000/PS6000 with the EqualLogic PS5000?
DELL-ScottH	That's part of our plan; use EqualLogic PS5000 as a baseline
JasonPowell	Scotth, wish you could be here at our geekfest in Indiana
DELL-ScottH	We need our EqualLogic PS4000 and EqualLogic PS6000 to get here
watermarkgeek	The number of NICs per controller is a major difference between the units
DELL-ScottH	Just looked at some of the pictures of the geeks lining up
watermarkgeek	I wish I could be at the geekfest as well...
DELL-ScottH	Looks like fun
Jeff_Junker	Is that what they do in Indiana after the 500?
Tom	How does that equate to performance? Are multiple NICs only necessary when you pass 2 or 4 GB? Or are their inherent advantages at lower speeds?
DELL-ScottH	@watermark, yes, that's why we want to start with same spindles, same I/O ports, and then rev up to the maximum of each and run another comparison...so many different test cases we could run
JasonPowell	Jeff_junker: http://citrt.pbworks.com/gcc-it-roundtable
HoosierCAB	@jasonpowell, geekfest in Indiana?
watermarkgeek	With more NICs you also have more options for redundancy as well as performance
JasonPowell	Follow #citrt hashtag on twitter :-)
watermarkgeek	We are happy with the performance of the EqualLogic PS5000 with three NICs, but not sure we'd need to go to four, but also not sure we'd want to drop to two
Jeff_Junker	Should be ovaltable
DELL-ScottH	Five guys...yum
cgreenoh	Jason, tell Chris Green, Chris Green said hi. If you see him...
watermarkgeek	Chris green just came in
JasonPowell	Watermarkgeek. we ran with only two NICs on our EqualLogic PS1000e's for a year...no issues
erson	Two GbE on each controller connected to two different switches with a trunk in between; the EqualLogic PS6000 can't do much better than that when talking redundancy, but more throughput
JasonPowell	Cgreenoh, will do :-)
watermarkgeek	We are running Exchange on the EqualLogic PS5000 now, so need to look at performance numbers again. I'm sure it is yawning
JasonPowell	SAN HQ baby
erson	Watermarkgeek, what version of Exchange are you using?
watermarkgeek	Yep
watermarkgeek	2007
Tom	So, if I’m not worried about redundancy or advanced features, is the EqualLogic PS5000 better then a PowerVault MD3000i?
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	We have some ESRP numbers on the EqualLogic PS5000 posted
JasonPowell	Just unplug a NIC and see what happens
JasonPowell	Tom, yes. Setup of EqualLogic is way, way easier than PowerVault MD3000i
watermarkgeek	Tom, agree with Jason Powell
JasonPowell	And management is simpler IMHO
erson	Watermarkgeek, Exchange 2010 drops I/O as much as 2007 dropped, compared to 2003...in other words, a lot
watermarkgeek	Good to know
cgreenoh	Yeah, no fooling
JasonPowell	Okay, I'd love to stay, but gotta go...39 burgers to order at Five Guys and room setup :-)
cgreenoh	Hah! You boys (and girls) have fun
watermarkgeek	Could you mail me one? Oh, wait, never mind
JasonPowell	/me leaves chat open to review later
Tom	Jason/watermark, so is it mainly setup, or is performance incrementally better? We are going to use it to backend a vSphere farm (two boxes)
watermarkgeek	Tom, that is exactly what we are doing
Tom	The costs are considerably more, and looking to justify the expense
watermarkgeek	We have Exchange, SQL, and a ton of file/print-serving VMs—all on one EqualLogic PS5000 array. We have seen great performance from it
cgreenoh	And how do you have the NICs set up?
Tom	Do you have any idea on the number of IOPS you’re running?
watermarkgeek	Using redundant iSCSI switches (active/active)
watermarkgeek	Not offhand. But when I looked at SAN HQ a while back, I was amazed at how much lower it was than I thought it would be
cgreenoh	What model switches?
watermarkgeek	Extreme
erson	The 6224 would be a good fit
watermarkgeek	Extreme x300s to be specific
erson	Connect using 10GbE, and 10GbE is available for uplink as well
watermarkgeek	Or 350s...I can't keep their numbers straight
cgreenoh	Thanks for the information
watermarkgeek	Dell-scotth, so two is the maximum number of EqualLogic PS4000s that can be added to a group correct?
DELL-ScottH	Yup
cgreenoh	Planning our migration to SAN currently; always nice to have other pictures :)
DELL-ScottH	Two and only two
DELL-ScottH	Coming up on the end of the hour. Feel free to stay in the chat as long as you like; it's always open. Some of us may have to drop, so I'd like to thank everyone for joining
Tom	What is the cache in the EqualLogic PS5000? 4 GB? Is that each controller or combined?
watermarkgeek	Thanks for hosting
Dell-d_glynn	@tom, 1 GB
erson	Remember to attend the next chat about Dell iSCSI and virtualization
cgreenoh	I'm out too; great chat again. See you guys next time
HoosierCAB	Erson, Tuesday?
erson	Yes
Dell-KongY	Thank you, Ujjwal and Jeff, for your time and expertise. :)
Jeff_Junker	Cache is per controller, so as you add arrays you also get cache and Gigabit Ethernet ports
DELL-ScottH	Tuesday's chat link: http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/06-30-09+dell+iscsi+and+virtualization
Dell-KongY	Thank you to everyone for attending and participating!
Jeff_Junker	Off to have a quart
DELL-ScottH	:-)
Tom	Thanks, all!
Dell-KongY	Scott, thanks for the link, and @erson, thanks for the mention
Jeff_Junker	Might catch on....
Ujjwal_Rajbhandari	Thank you all for attending
Dell-KongY	Bring your iSCSI and virtualization questions next time
erson	Off to unload some hay to the hayloft...you can't beat that!
DELL-ScottH	Hmmm, dropping the kids off at the pool? :-) Thanks again; see everyone next week
erson	I have an unused EqualLogic PS6000e with 16x 1 TB and an unused PowerVault MD3000i with 16x 1 TB. Send me an EqualLogic PS4000e with 16x 1 TB, and I'll give you some benchmarks :)
DELL-ScottH	Hmmm. I have to get our 4000 first; maybe I'll order five or six
erson	Dang, you need to start a Dell TechCenter in Sweden
Dell-d_glynn	Lower cooling costs than Texas I'd imagine ;)
erson	And a lot more bandwidth :) We're upgrading our office to 1 Gb for ~$260/month
DELL-ScottH	Man, would love that bandwidth at the house. Alright, I'm off to install some Xsigo drivers on vSphere
erson	Me too, why on earth did I buy a house outside the city? Had 1 Gb at my student home... that was pleasant. Ah, well, great chat everyone. Hope to see you all on Tuesday. Off to the hayloft