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05-13-08 - Switching to Dell OpenManage Chat
This topic is an open discussion around tools/tips/techniques/tricks you have found around switching to the Dell OpenManage platform from another vendor. We'll talk about the tools to use for deployment of Operating Systems and hardware updates.
Start Smart with Dell OpenManage
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Start Smart with Dell OpenManage
Chat Transcript
| DELL-ToddM | Hidey Ho |
| DELL-ScottH | hey |
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| DELL-ScottH | hello |
| slbrown | hello Scott |
| DELL-ToddM | What's Up slbrown |
| slbrown | not much Todd |
| slbrown | and yourself |
| DELL-ToddM | I'm working on getting a whole bunch of Vms running on an r900 |
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| DELL-ScottH | the one you don't want me to reboot, right ? |
| DELL-ScottH | hey roger |
| DELL-ToddM | I even installed Omsa earlier today to monitor the power on the r900 |
| DELL-ToddM | (See Scott I'm not trying to hijack the Om discussion |
| Dell-RogerF | Afternoon. Looks like the regulars are here! |
| DELL-ScottH | you get your turn in the barrel next week todd ! |
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| slbrown | how did the Omsa install go on R900 |
| DELL-ScottH | hey greg |
| DELL-ToddM | Very easy to install Omsa on Esx these days |
| ramseyg | Hi Scott |
| slbrown | which version of Om? |
| DELL-ToddM | Download the tar from support.dell.com |
| DELL-ScottH | 5.4 |
| DELL-ToddM | 5.4 |
| DELL-ScottH | is there an echo in here ? |
| DELL-ToddM | unzip, run setup.sh, select the things you want |
| DELL-ToddM | then start the services |
| DELL-ScottH | hey greg, great work on getting the System Center pages up, some good stuff and screenshots too |
| DELL-ScottH | appreciate you buys building that community |
| ramseyg | thanks - we're making progress. . |
| DELL-ScottH | alright, I guess everyone else can catch up ... |
| DELL-ScottH | this is the final chat of our topic based around Switching systems management ... I've been updating areas around this topic on this page .. |
| DELL-ScottH | http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/switching+to+dell+systems+management |
| DELL-ScottH | keep a "watch" on that page for some more items to be completed |
| DELL-ScottH | Today we are going to discuss "starting Smart with Dell Openmanage" ... :-) .. thanks to roger for the title and play on words with Hp Smartstart :-) |
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| DELL-ScottH | I've created a page on the subject -- http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/starting+smart+with+dell+openmanage -- this page explains how Sbuu is similar to Hp Smartstart and shows some demos of it in action |
| DELL-ScottH | haha caught another one in the "don't click here |
| DELL-ScottH | " filter ! |
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| DELL-ScottH | hey greg, don't click those links :-) |
| ramseyg | oops. . I clicked on the link. . . :( |
| DELL-ScottH | haha, you can right click and it will open a new winodw .... I always like to see how many we catch :-) |
| ramseyg | yea. . I guess luckily, now that I've logged back in, I can't even see the link. . keeps me out of trouble. . :) |
| DELL-ScottH | anyways .... Dell Openmanage Systems Build and Update Utlity .... aka Sbuu (so much less to type) is the equivalent to Hp's smartstart Cd ... |
| ramseyg | Question - does Sbuu = Suu ? |
| DELL-ScottH | you boot the machine from the Cd and it will allow you to update your system firmware/bios and install the Os |
| DELL-ScottH | no suu = server update utility |
| ramseyg | ok - thanks |
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| DELL-ScottH | which I will cover in a sec |
| DELL-ToddM | Welcome jhuser |
| DELL-ScottH | welcome jhuser ... you can catch up through "actions" .. recent room history |
| jhuser | Thanks |
| DELL-ScottH | Suu is used to update your system using the Dell Update Packages .. aka Dups ... so many Tla's ! |
| DELL-ScottH | To get an idea of using Dups and Suu see this page -- http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/patching+dell+poweredge+servers |
| slbrown | Scott won't it also allow you to create some scripts for unattended installs? |
| DELL-ScottH | yes, the other part of Sbuu that is great is that it allows you to capture the steps for a single system install and then recreate those steps for mass roll out of many machines ... I've got a demo of that .. hold for link .. |
| DELL-ScottH | on this page -- http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/systems+build+and+update+utility+-+sbuu |
| DELL-ScottH | so not only will it build the unattended.txt file, it will also bundle the bios/firmware updates in a script that can be deplyed with the Dtk -- |
| slbrown | another nice thing about the Sbuu is it's ability to validate the media burned. |
| DELL-ScottH | Dtk = deployment toolkit -- http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/dell+openmanage+deployment+toolkit |
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| DELL-ScottH | another one bites the dust ! |
| DELL-ScottH | I have to see if that is a setting we can change in the chat software |
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| DELL-ScottH | although it's good to know people are following along |
| ramseyg | I agree - I'm an easy target on that click-link-get-ejected thing. . |
| DELL-ScottH | hey jh, you can right click on the links :-) .. should mentioned that before , its bitten us all |
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| DELL-ScottH | hi bb, use "action" -- "recent room history" to catch up |
| DELL-ScottH | ok, I've also blogged a little about these new pages on my Systemsedge blog -- http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/systems+edge |
| DELL-ScottH | be sure to subscribe, that way you'll see all the new stuff we're working on |
| DELL-ScottH | yes, back to the validation of the media, it's a nice thing, except for the one guy that wanted to use some Iso image he downloaded from the web and wondered why it told him invalid media :-) |
| DELL-ScottH | I want to extend the invite to anyone here, or reading the transcript to add their experiences and scripts to our community. I know there are many ways to skin a cat (I love cats, with bbq sauce) and we created a place to put them -- http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/openmanage+scripts+and+tools |
| DELL-ScottH | And since this is our week to talk about competitors tools, especially moving from Hp Sim to Dell Om, I know many Hp customers also use Ms System Center .... we've got some great resources in the form of Dell It, who are building out the resources here -- http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/microsoft+system+center |
| DELL-ScottH | Greg (ramseyg) is one of the resources and a Ms Mvp ... greg care to talk about some of the things you've added to the Techcenter, and any upcoming things ? |
| DELL-ScottH | ok, cat has his tounge |
| ramseyg | we're working on a few things in the System Center Space |
| ramseyg | my Colleague Dennis just posted some new information about using the Dell Client configuration utility to configure bios settings on desktops and notebooks - http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/configuring+the+bios+using+the+dell+client+configuration+utility+%28dccu%29 |
| ramseyg | (sorry - it's patch Tuesday - multi-tasking) |
| ramseyg | Dccu is very convenient. . |
| DELL-ScottH | don't reboot mine yet :-) |
| ramseyg | If you don't have the luxury to install Omci on your workstations, and you need to make a change to the Bios, take a look at Dccu. |
| ramseyg | basically, it allows you to create a custom package to make a specific Bios setting - a great example is to flip the Wake-on-lan bit in the bios, so that you can wake your systems |
| ramseyg | now if you have Omci installed, you can use a fairly simple Vbscript . . or Powershell. . .or anything else you choose |
| ramseyg | we'll post some more info on Omci in the near future, with some cool scripts too. . |
| DELL-ScottH | yes, scripts, love their power |
| ramseyg | here's the main page for Configmgr: http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/sccm+-+system+center+configuration+manager |
| ramseyg | You'll find a little information in there about the Dell Server Updates catalog, which you can import into Sccm - we're working with the product team to get the "official documentation" posted as soon as possible. |
| ramseyg | after importing the server updates catalog, you can detect and deploy device patches to your Dell servers, just like you can deploy Ms security patches |
| DELL-ScottH | well we've definitely come a long way from when I first started in this field and had to do everything with floppys ! |
| ramseyg | no kidding. . . we're making some great progress |
| DELL-ScottH | yeah, just look at Rogers profile pic, he's got a computer made out of plywood ! |
| Dell-RogerF | Wire wrapped the chips myself. 1024 bytes of Ram |
| DELL-ScottH | that covers all the pages and topics I wanted to bring up, if you review them you'll find lots of information of Startingsmart with Dell and will point you in the right direction for deployment of servers and applying patches ... if you are a Ms System Center shop, be sure to review what Greg has produced ... |
| DELL-ScottH | alright, time for open discussion ... the floor is everyones |
| ramseyg | (shameless plug) - Anyone attending Tech-ed? I'll be presenting on using Powershell with Configmgr. . . |
| DELL-ScottH | is it in vegas ? |
| ramseyg | No - Orlando. . |
| ramseyg | I've never attended Tech-ed before - it should be interesting. . |
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| DELL-ScottH | you have the topic event # ... in case anyone is looking in the transcript |
| DELL-ScottH | Tech-ed is fun, went to one about 6-8 years ago .. man I'm getting old |
| ramseyg | I'll see if I can find it quick. . |
| DELL-ScottH | Todd, how about you tell us a little of what we can expect for the next topic ? |
| ramseyg | Mgt365 - Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager 2007: Scripting and Console Extensions |
| DELL-ScottH | cool, that's an easy number to remember |
| ramseyg | it will be a pretty decent deep dive into using Powershell with Wmi.. |
| DELL-ScottH | I keep wanting to learn powershell, I've done a few simple things with it, I love scripting ... but too much stuff, too little time, like everything .... I also want to learn spanish, take up woodworking, welding, etc etc .. .I need to invent a time machine, that's the ticket ! |
| ramseyg | yep me too. . |
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| DELL-ScottH | you want to go halfsies on a Delorean ? that's all we need, right ? |
| DELL-ScottH | hey Eric, fixed the browser problem I take it |
| ramseyg | yes - sounds good. |
| Eric_Reed | saw one of those up here in Nashville the other day |
| Eric_Reed | yeah, it finally worked |
| DELL-ScottH | use "action" - "recent room history" and you can catch up |
| DELL-ScottH | how many gigawatts ? |
| Eric_Reed | I had to hard-code the proxy settings into the java control panel |
| DELL-ScottH | you just have to clean them with Windex, right ? |
| Eric_Reed | [catching up...] |
| DELL-ScottH | Todd are finished eating Bbq cat ? |
| DELL-ToddM | Hey - Sorry Had to walk around the corner for a sec |
| DELL-ToddM | Next Week! |
| DELL-ToddM | Yes - We are going to be discussing How to select the right server for virtualization |
| DELL-ToddM | The key options are 2 socket, 4 socket, or blades |
| Eric_Reed | ...and zesty, lo-cal cat recipes? |
| DELL-ToddM | Oh - and Amd or Intel |
| DELL-ToddM | I'm more into high cal stuff - Chuys! |
| DELL-ScottH | you guys better be careful or these are going to make the "quote of the wee" report ! |
| DELL-ScottH | week |
| Eric_Reed | Mmm...chuy's. For those outside of Austin who might be on this chat, if you ever travel to Austin, please avail yourself of some good Chuy's food. Okay, back to the technical stuff... |
| DELL-ScottH | Elvis plate for me - very low cal |
| DELL-ToddM | I've setup a landing page for next week';s topic - http://www.delltechcenter.com/page/selecting+a+server+for+virtualization |
| DELL-ToddM | There are lots of conversations going on between people about what is the best server - and we are going to try to organize the conversation and come up with some basic recommendations |
| DELL-ScottH | do you also plan on covering storage as a side topic, or sticking just to the server side of the discussion ? |
| DELL-ToddM | Storage would be part of the conversation as well - iscsi or Fibre |
| DELL-ToddM | Sata or Sas |
| Eric_Reed | I have a customer who's just going to be getting up on plane with Poweredge servers and Openmanage architecture...i'll show them the Sbuu, Omsa, Ita, Omci and the Dccu...what else do you think a newb customer would like to chew on? |
| DELL-ScottH | I think all new customers should explore the site, hard to tell what they need, but we are here to point them in the right direction, encourage them to join here and discuss |
| Eric_Reed | Certainly will...yeah. |
| DELL-ScottH | jhuser, anything you need covered ? |
| jhuser | No I was just checking this out. |
| DELL-ScottH | cool, we like lurkers ! |
| DELL-ScottH | well, we appreciate everyone spending the time, review the links I sent out, and start threads anywhere you like and we'll pick up the discussion from there .... invite your collegues to the Techcenter and we'll keep plugging away ... talk to you all next week, with Todd leading the discussion |
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| jhuser | Thanks guys |
| DELL-ScottH | thank you ! |
| DELL-ToddM | Thanks Scott |
| DELL-ToddM | Later |
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| DELL-ScottH | l8r |
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| Eric_Reed | thankya...thankyaverymuch! |
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