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| DELL-ScottH | Welcome all; let’s allow a few more minutes for stragglers to join...brb |
| welshconsulting | Hi |
| DELL-ScottH | Hello. Welcome all to this weeks chat! |
| DELL-ScottH | Couple of things before we get started. This chat is recorded, so be on good behavior. :-) And don't worry about writing any URLs down because you'll be able to click on them tomorrow. Speaking of URLs, if you right-click them you can avoid accidentally exiting the chat. Also, ask questions at any time during the chat; it's not rude to interrupt, and we can sort out everything midstream. Okay, let's kick it off |
| DELL-ScottH | Today's topic is on the Dell PowerEdge 11th-generation Lifecycle Controller. In a nutshell, you can get a quick overview here: www.delltechcenter.com/page/lifecycle+controller |
| DELL-ScottH | Welcome, Tony |
| tonyhgras | Hi Scott, a bit early? |
| DELL-ScottH | The Lifecycle Controller is built into the 11th-generation systems and allows you to update and build a system from the ground up without the stack of CDs and DVDs you used to use. |
| DELL-ScottH | Actually just started |
| DELL-ScottH | Use Action, Recent room History to catch up |
| DELL-ScottH | I think everyone is vSphere'd out today and taking late lunches :-) |
| DELL-ScottH | I think the easiest way to learn is through the use of demos. So to that end I've created two demos that show an overview and how to apply system updates. They are both located on the Lifecycle Controller TechCenter page: www.delltechcenter.com/page/lifecycle+controller |
| DELL-ScottH | Very easy to use. |
| tonyhgras | It’s safe to click links? |
| DELL-ScottH | Simply press F10 at boot to enter "system services," which boots you into the Unified Server Configurator—the GUI for the Lifecycle Controller, the hardware |
| DELL-ScottH | Yes, but right-click just in case |
| DELL-ScottH | Or not :-) |
| tonyhgras | Some trouble with pop-up blocker |
| DELL-ScottH | So with the new 11th-generation systems you no longer have to use the Systems Build and Update Utility aka SBUU; you just press F10 and update from ftp.dell.com, or a local repository on a USB key |
| DELL-ScottH | Then you can install the OS from the same menu; the Lifecycle Controller has the drivers built in for the supported operating systems |
| DELL-ScottH | So welcome back everyone from the joy of pop-up blockers and links in the chat taking you to laa laa land :-) |
| tonyhgras | Scott, is this repository usable once the OS is installed? I mean to update OS drivers? |
| DELL-ScottH | No, only available at build time |
| tonyhgras | Okay, and for firmware updates? |
| DELL-ScottH | The one that is built into the Lifecycle Controller, if you put a separate repository on a USB key, then obviously that one is available. Make sense? |
| tonyhgras | Understand |
| DELL-ScottH | Anyone have their hands on 11th-generation hardware yet? |
| tonyhgras | So we should still be using DUPs? |
| btoups | Yes, I have nine PowerEdge R710s |
| DELL-ScottH | Cool! What applications are you doing? |
| DELL-ScottH | And thanks! |
| Dustin | @tonyhgras, the DUPs will be used through the Lifecycle configuration manager |
| btoups | Hyper-V with EqualLogic PS6000XV |
| Dustin | For OS-level drivers you can still use the DUPs within the OS |
| DELL-ScottH | So, any questions on how to use the Lifecycle Controller ? It's really straightforward; check out the demos and you'll see what I mean. And I'll have an OS installation demo done this week. It will be posted on the same page: www.delltechcenter.com/page/lifecycle+controller |
| tonyhgras | Thanks, Dustin. Can you explain in more details? |
| DELL-ScottH | @btoups, that's a pretty beefy configuration. How easy was the setup? |
| btoups | I have deployed a couple Windows 2008 x64, and I seemed to install the drivers fine |
| Dustin | USC/LCM can perform hardware-level updates, but for OS-level updates you will still need to use your current OS management. What I mean by using DUPs from LCM is that when it accesses the FTP at DELL.COM, it actually is pulling down the DUP updates for the firmware level |
| btoups | It doesn’t seem to install the typical Dell utilities though |
| tonyhgras | What I understand is that once the OS is up and running you have to use DUPs for updating drivers or DMC (ITA), is that correct? |
| Dustin | Correct. There is 1:1 options and 1:many options, plus all the partner applications that support Dell Updates |
| btoups | Sorry guys, help me out (recent convert from HP). I don’t know the acronyms you are using |
| Dustin | www.dell.com/openmanage/isv (to view the other partner applications) |
| DELL-ScottH | USC = Unified Server Configurator |
| Dustin | DUPs = Dell Update Packages |
| DELL-ScottH | DUP = Dell update Package |
| DELL-ScottH | LCM = Lifecycle Controller |
| Dustin | DMC = Dell Management Console |
| btoups | Thanks |
| Dustin | DMC replaces ITA = IT Assistant |
| tonyhgras | I have a couple of questions regarding management |
| DELL-ScottH | ITA = IT Assistant, predecessor to DMC that just released |
| DELL-ScottH | DMC group is here: http://en.community.dell.com/groups/dell_management_console/default.aspx |
| Dustin | Scott H, great videos; I just watched them both! |
| DELL-ScottH | *blush* Thanks |
| tonyhgras | Agree on that, great videos |
| Dustin | @tonyhgras, what questions? |
| tonyhgras | Q1: With the new iDRAC Express included on all servers, it’s mandatory to install OpenMange Server Administrator? For remote hardware management |
| Dustin | Q1: Depends on what level of information you want out of the box. OMSA will continue to have likely more details, but iDRAC 6 may provide at a higher level all you want to know |
| Dustin | Scotth, is there a page on TechCenter covering iDRAC 6? |
| DELL-ScottH | Yes, you don't *have* to install OMSA, but to get full details you'll need it. There's some information on this in the FAQ on the DMC group and in some of the demos: http://en.community.dell.com/groups/dell_management_console/default.aspx |
| tonyhgras | What can you get from OMSA that you cannot from iDRAQ Express? |
| DELL-ScottH | Not a specific iDRAC 6 page on TechCenter yet; would you like to create it? :-) |
| btoups | I have the iDRAC Enterprise. Can I use the SD card for OS deployment? |
| tonyhgras | For example, to be discovered by DMC, iDRAC should suffice, right? |
| Dustin | Not ignoring the questions, doing some quick homework to answer; my specialty is in update and partners |
| tonyhgras | No problem |
| Dustin | Still going to answer, but here is documentation: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/smdrac3/idrac/index.htm |
| tonyhgras | Thanks, Dustin |
| Dustin | Deploying Your Operating System Using VM CLI |
| Dustin | http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/smdrac3/idrac/idrac10mono/en/ug/html/racugc1g.htm#wp46449 |
| DELL-ScottH | Dustin, thanks! That is a great resource; I haven't read that part of the documents yet |
| tonyhgras | I’m afraid to click on links |
| Dustin | Right-click; have to disable pop-up blockers |
| tonyhgras | Let me check. But for using VM CLI you need to have iDRAQ Enterprise, or Express is okay? |
| DELL-ScottH | I will have to check; I'm still confused as to what you get with what. The marketing team was not able to join today, and I'll follow up and post at the end of the transcript, or on the transcript page |
| tonyhgras | I guess VM CLI is an enterprise feature. Take a look at this: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/software/smdrac3/idrac/idrac10mono/en/ug/html/racugc1.htm#wp30195 |
| DELL-ScottH | That helps. what I wouldn't give for a time machine to have plenty of time in the day to read everything |
| Dustin | I was talking offline with a local resource, and for sure you can load a bootable image to the SD card (sub-256 MB), but to remotely load the data to the SD from bare metal, we don't believe that’s there with the current level of firmware |
| btoups | Okay, thanks. Will probably use WDS for deployment |
| tonyhgras | Dustin, are you referring to the vFlash? |
| Dustin | Yes, sorry, the vFlash |
| DELL-ScottH | I'm planning to do a demo around the SD card to see what is capable, today. I know we are working on some futures |
| btoups | That would be appreciated Scott |
| tonyhgras | It is supposedly used to load a service image, right? |
| Dustin | Tony, what do you mean about service image? |
| DELL-ScottH | Right now what the developers are telling me is that anything you can fit in 256 MB is what will work. But 256 MB is too small for full OS image deployment directly from the SD card |
| tonyhgras | Sorry, I should read it somewhere |
| Dustin | Agreed, you would have to put a Windows PE or Linux boot kernel to go from there |
| DELL-ScottH | Yup |
| btoups | Yeah, I was a little disappointed in that, Scott |
| DELL-ScottH | I have a 1 GB card in mine, but it only reads/formats it as 256 MB |
| DELL-ScottH | Me too :-( |
| btoups | Oh, what is needed for the iDRAC to capture crash screens? |
| DELL-ScottH | But the developer tells me that is changing, but that's about all I can say |
| btoups | That is a really useful feature |
| DELL-ScottH | Crash screen capture is built in, as is boot-replay capture, which is really neat |
| tonyhgras | Btoups, do you have iDRAQ Enterprise? |
| btoups | Didn’t know about boot-replay capture. I assume it will record the boot sequence? |
| btoups | Yes |
| DELL-ScottH | It captures the last three boot cycles under "system," "log," and "boot capture" |
| btoups | Doing it now; that is really neat |
| DELL-ScottH | Capturing Twitpic from my live system...hold for URL |
| btoups | Don’t know if this is off topic or not. UEFI Boot, benefits? |
| tonyhgras | This is what USC uses |
| btoups | I see in the BIOS there is the option to boot using BIOS or UEFI; I was not able to boot from PERC when UEFI boot was selected |
| DELL-ScottH | I'm not a UEFI, but this should help: www.uefi.org/home. But UEFI is for booting into the USC that the Lifecycle Controller uses, not anything for the end user to use yet |
| btoups | Thanks, that was my final conclusion |
| DELL-ScottH | Yeah, but some cool stuff coming |
| DELL-ScottH | Thanks to everyone for joining, any final questions? |
| btoups | I was hoping to tap into that but figured it wasn’t ready |
| btoups | Not from me |
| DELL-ScottH | Thanks to everyone again for joining. If you have any follow-up questions, hit me up on the site, or start a thread directly on the transcript page |
| tonyhgras | Thanks everyone, have a nice day |
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