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| Dell-KongY | Hello David. How have you been? | |
| Dell-d_glynn | Good Kong. | |
| Dell-d_glynn | Playing with my new ipod Nano | |
| Dell-d_glynn | and you? | |
| Dell-KongY | sweet. Got that for my wife before I picked up my iphone | |
| Dell-KongY | doing well just waiting for the featured guests in a team room | |
| Dell-d_glynn | and maybe some customers... | |
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| Dell-KongY | i hope so :) | |
| Dell-KongY | hi Eric | |
| Eric.Z | Hello | |
| Dell-KongY | we'll wait a bit for hopefully a few more folks to join us | |
| Dell-KongY | otherwise- Eric you will have the undivided attention of many of Dell's finest engineers :) | |
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| Dell-KongY | hello ceobroker | |
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| Dell-KongY | So one of our guests has just joined- Mahmoud is a lead engineer on the E2e team at Dell | |
| Dell-KongY | Farrukh will be with us shortly | |
| Dell-KongY | Eric and Ceo- have you deployed Exchange 2010 or Uc in your environments yet? | |
| M_AHmadian | Hi everyone | |
| Eric.Z | No 2010 or Uc. Just Exchange 2007, mail only. | |
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| M_AHmadian | I work with Farrukh and team here at Dell Product Group -solutions Engineering | |
| Dell-KongY | Well - i guess we're pretty light today :) | |
| Dell-KongY | Let's get started | |
| Dell-KongY | Farrukh will be with us shortly | |
| Dell-KongY | Today- we'll be covering the Exchange Advisor tool with 2010 updates and the Uc Advisor tool | |
| Dell-KongY | http://advisors.dell.com/advisorweb/advisor.aspx?advisor=b6372fc5-7556-4340-8328-b8a88e2e64b2-001ebc;4&c=us&l=en&cs=g_5 | |
| Dell-KongY | http://advisors.dell.com/advisorweb/advisor.aspx?advisor=79cbac64-08fc-4b3e-9fa4-d51e51cd635e-0077d7;3&c=us&l=en&cs=g_5 | |
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| Dell-KongY | Those are the respective links to the advisor. | |
| Dell-KongY | Sorry Eric | |
| Dell-KongY | i forgot to mention- right click on the links otherwise you'll be dropped from chat | |
| Eric.Z | Ok. | |
| Dell-KongY | i have been testing with Exchange 2010 on vsphere in my labs -> R710 attached to Eql Ps arrays | |
| M_AHmadian | On my side we have focused on Exchange 2010 physical | |
| M_AHmadian | Eql Pv and Emc with 11 G servers | |
| Eric.Z | I'm always thinking the mailbox servers should go with physical. Not sure if this is right or wrong. | |
| Dell-KongY | Eric - have you virtualized other applications in your environment? | |
| Dell-KongY | my experience with Exchange 2k3, 2k7 and 2010 has been that virtualization gives you flexibility as long as you properly size the resources -> Cpu, memory, Disk, and Network | |
| Eric.Z | I did some in my previous job but not this one because it only covers email. I do have a virtual Bes. | |
| Eric.Z | And I am thinking to virtualize Ht and Cas servers. | |
| Dell-KongY | for the Mb server- are you using Exchange's features for Ha and Backup/dr? | |
| Eric.Z | We are using Scc plus a low end Scr, just in case. | |
| Eric.Z | For now, I don't have the option of using Vmware. I have to go with Hyper-v. I don't know if I can get much to use virtual Mb | |
| Dell-KongY | true hyper-v does not permit memory sharing like vsphere does | |
| M_AHmadian | with E2010, iops have rduced by 70% so Io bottleneck is less of a concern | |
| Dell-KongY | in my virtualization test environment, i used the advisor tool to help me size the physical instantiation | |
| Eric.Z | So advisor tools are for the planning, as I thought. | |
| Dell-KongY | yes- it is more for planning and sizing your Exchange / Uc environment | |
| Dell-KongY | the Business Ready Configs (brcs) are cookie cutter solutions that you can buy as is to deploy immediately while the Reference Architectures (ras) are baseline configs from where you can start | |
| Eric.Z | Not free? | |
| Dell-KongY | All these are free | |
| Dell-KongY | the advisor tools are free to use at the links that I posted earlier | |
| Dell-KongY | btw- the chat transcript will be posted tomorrow | |
| Dell-KongY | so don't worry about taking notes or such | |
| Dell-KongY | the Brcs are whitepapers with detailed configurations and best practices | |
| Dell-KongY | the Reference Architectures are 2-page docs with a brief description of what it tries to solve | |
| Eric.Z | Ok. I thought advisor tool is something like the Caculator we used when planning Exchange 2007 mailbox server. We used it to order and design our Eql disk arrays and Luns. | |
| Dell-KongY | My understanding is that the tool is more storage centric and more generic | |
| Dell-KongY | the Exchange Advisor tool goes through engineering rigor with emphasis on the Dell stack | |
| Dell-KongY | which includes Pe servers, Ps storage arrays, Dell | Emc | |
| Dell-KongY | Eric- if you don't mind sharing, which company do you work for? | |
| Eric.Z | A university in Canada. Since the script will be post, sorry for not going more detail. | |
| Dell-KongY | no worries | |
| Dell-KongY | thank you for sharing though | |
| M_AHmadian | are you looking to upgrade to 2010 any time soon? | |
| Eric.Z | We see there will be a need to have another mailbox server. And I am suggesting to use 2010. | |
| M_AHmadian | exchange 2010 less demanding in tterms of Iops | |
| M_AHmadian | with richer Ha features and | |
| Eric.Z | What kind of experience do you guys have with co-existing 2007 and 2010. | |
| M_AHmadian | muli-way replication and Dr built in | |
| M_AHmadian | they can co-exist fine | |
| M_AHmadian | the catch is that you have to configure and Ht and Cas first then Mb for 2010 | |
| Eric.Z | We are more looking forward to its 3rd-party browser Owa Premium as well as the built-in archive (not perfect now) feature. You know in universities, they are people who do not like Ms but prefer Open Source. | |
| M_AHmadian | in 2010 Cas is acting as the connection to the mailbox | |
| M_AHmadian | the clients dor not connect to the Mb | |
| M_AHmadian | the connect to Cas | |
| M_AHmadian | yes | |
| Eric.Z | You won't believe, in many universities, all users are using Outlook Anywhere or Owa. They are using Cas to connect to Mb anyway. Mine too. | |
| Dell-KongY | that's great feedback Eric | |
| M_AHmadian | the built in archive Mb is on the same Db so you are right there is room for imporvement | |
| M_AHmadian | what are you using for archiving currently? | |
| Eric.Z | No archiving. Was planned but the money was taken back because of the Recession. | |
| M_AHmadian | bummer! | |
| Eric.Z | But this made my servers simpler to manage. | |
| M_AHmadian | with E2010 and Data Availability Groups (dag) , (multiple copies of each database)can be kept current allowing offloading backup jobs to seocndary servers | |
| Dell-KongY | Gents - thank you for joining us today. | |
| Dell-KongY | I want to thank Mahmoud, Farrukh, David, and Eric for joining us today | |
| Eric.Z | You mentioned 2010 is less demanding Iops. Is Dell planning to sell Md1120 with 1TB Sata disks, which will be better fit for E2010? | |
| Eric.Z | Thanks you Kongy | |
| Dell-KongY | Eric- if there is any other questions around E2010 or Uc that you have, please send them my way | |
| M_AHmadian | Yes Md1220 with 2TB Sata and Nl-sas is a good option | |
| M_AHmadian | now Das with cheaper disks is gaining more potential with Ex2010 | |
| Eric.Z | How soon will they be on market? | |
| M_AHmadian | Md1200 with 2TB are already out | |
| M_AHmadian | Internal drives is also becoming more popular with Ex2010 | |
| M_AHmadian | since scaling out in Dag with all Ha features is very good option | |
| M_AHmadian | we have refernce configurations with 10,000 on internal drives...on servers like R510 which can hold up to 12 drives | |
| Eric.Z | I more like Md1220 because of 24 drives per array. | |
| M_AHmadian | 2.5" drives still have capacity limitation compared to 3.5" | |
| Eric.Z | I see. Thank you. | |
| Eric.Z | Have to go. | |
| M_AHmadian | you are very welcome | |
| Eric.Z | Thank you and have a nice day or night. | |
| M_AHmadian | have a nice day u 2 | |
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| Dell-KongY | take care guys | |
| Dell-KongY | cya next week | |
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